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Posted by: Michael Caswell
« on: November 11, 2019, 09:40:46 am »

Talking about wasting money  - remember the three towns who sued the Canal Corp?
Each one spent about $14,000 on legal fees for this nonsense! AND they hoodwinked 'expert witnesses' into giving incorrect evidence! 
What have they achieved? Absolutely NOTHING!  The NYPA's EEIP program is on course, not wavering, and work will commence soon enough to rectify these dangerous dams.

I hate to think how much money has been spent on the delays.
Posted by: Doug K
« on: November 09, 2019, 12:08:39 pm »

Once again it's the Leadership of the STCC who still thinks they deserve "preferential" treatment, from a NY State agency that they have done nothing but ridicule  from Day 1 for trying to preserve public safety.

Threatening the NY Canal Corporation with a letter to the state governor, the head of the Canal Corporation, Mr. Brian Stratton, had to write yet another letter to STCC Leader GouldThorpe who is demanding answers...answers that could be easily found on the NY Canal website for the Earthen Embankment Integrity Program or EEIP as its known. Take a look at the letter...then go look at what is available on their website.

Each word in this letter can be found on the website...several times. But no, the STCC Leadership would rather have Mr. Stratton waste his valuable time, and taxpayer dollars, on a personal note to their group. And this isn't the first time this request has been made. Figuring the cost to employ Mr. Stratton, at about $100 per hour, these letters, with administrative support, probably cost taxpayers a few hundred dollars EACH.

What a waste of time & money...all for a group that is saying the Canal Corporation is "wasting money" fixing the canal, under their EEIP Public Safety program

Surely  Canal Corporation leaders have enough on their hands trying to fix their unsafe embankment issues but let's challenge  them more with having to write letters to a group that won't believe what they've been told, or spend the time to learn about dams, locks and general embankment safety. If they don't believe the website information, why would a letter be received any differently?

Go look at their latest work on the State Environmental Quality Review

Maybe the leadees of the STCC feel just a bit more "special", a bit more "full of themselves", when they show their letters off on Facebook...who knows anymore with this group. They have changed their strategy a half dozen times already originally saying EEIP was about selling trees. Now they say it's not about's about shade.

Seems like the whole group is a bit "shady". Its hard to tell if the STCC leaders intent is about the public good or their own "self-importance" these days. Just read Ms.Agte's rant about her tireless efforts for the group, which at tge end seems to promote herself and her flawed views on public safety.

The ECNA has a solution...doubt it will be received in the same spirit it was given but since we DO know they frequently read this Forum Board, we can only try to steer them into a better understanding of the gravity of Erie Canal Embankment Dam Safety. Maybe they just need some education on the a level they may be able to understand.

Since the Canal website info has proved too challenging, here's a learning website more in tune with their capability... 6th grade level should work.

Who knows, maybe this will teach them something. Or at a minimum they might spend the time NOT writing more letters to the Canal folks who have enough to do right now with this huge public safety program. In any case it's sent with the best intentions, as an educated public is a public that will make better decisions on their own.

Sadly, from what the Stop The Canal Clearcut LEADERS have already shown the rest of us, they may not learn anything from this lesson. After all, they certainly "claim" to know EVERYTHING about dam safety, and they paint those who are running the Embankment Safety Program as ignorant, bumbling fools.

Our best advice to the public...guess who is who.