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Posted by: Doug K
« on: July 18, 2022, 10:35:01 am »

Here's the truth... one small town, with two disgruntled Erie Trail Users, have caused ALL of this lost time, lost money and lost opportunity to REPAIR a public safety issues right here in our area.



https://canals.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=42703bd1c0504a14933d2010ce739043

Miles and miles of Canal Neighbors on the WEST side of Rochester, are held hostage by a MINORITY of nay-sayers in a community with MINIMAL amount of Embankments located within it's Townships.

Ahh... But they do have the $$$ don't they?




Posted by: Michael Caswell
« on: July 17, 2022, 06:35:57 pm »

One of the main reasons why we should let fellow citizens drown or lose their property in a breach of one of our embankment dams is the perpetual whining from people like Eerie Agte, Maddening Maier and Krazy Kevin Gallagher, who consider SHADE more important than repairing and fixing these dilapidated structures. 

So! They want shade? Lets go find it for them!

First lesson for this hunt.

1. The SUN (that bright hot object in the sky) rises in the EAST everyday.
2. Half way through the day, the SUN is highest in the SOUTHERN sky
3. At the end of the day, the SUN is setting in the WEST

That means shadows (those things that make SHADE) are thrown as follows-

1) In the mornings, all canal trails running north/south like from 31f to Bushnells Basin = no shade

2) In the later mornings, those canal trails running EAST to WEST like Bushnells Basin to Pittsford = no shade

3) In the later day, Erie Canal trails like 31f to Bushnells Basin (N to S) are in shade, - for now.

In the future, there will only be shade where there is no earthen embankment dam. These water impounding structures will be cleared of trees.

But all is not lost, wipe those crocodile tears away, and get out and find places like Harts Woods, and numerous other woody areas.

Or get up early and take your walk before the SUN is high in the sky. Look where the sun is and use your brain to figure it out... yes your own brain.

It is really easy!

And a lot of residents living under the threat of flood will appreciate your thoughtfulness as these dangerous trees are removed from our canal dams.
Posted by: Michael Caswell
« on: July 16, 2022, 08:13:07 am »

Canal Authority says so!

Well, some people interpret the EEIP as the Canal Authorities intent, but here is the low down. Tree removal from Embankment Dams depends purely on SEEPAGE reports and HAZARD RATING. The ECNA has it on good authority that trees will be removed only on a detrimental report of seepage, and hazard.

Condition Rating- A numeric system that rates the level of deterioration or deficiency of an earthen embankment dam. The Condition Ratings are 1-7:
 
1 (serious/emergency);
2 (very poor);
3 (poor);
4 (fair);
5 (good);
6(very good);
7 (excellent/new).

Hazard classification Refers to the damage or hazard that may be posed by the failure of a dam. The Hazard Classifications are:
 
-Class “A” (low hazard);
-Class “B” (intermediate hazard);
-Class “C” (high hazard); and
-Class “D” (negligible or no hazard).
 
The hazard classification is not indicative of the likelihood of failure: a dam can be in excellent condition and still be a “high hazard” because of the impacts if it were to fail. Likewise, it could be a “low hazard” but in poor condition.

STCC has the misconception that every tree on every canal bank will be cleared, which is not remotely true.

As an example, MS Agte (STCC)  recently posts she rode from Newark to Lyons, (as if she is ‘inspecting’ the canal). There are embankments there, but if you look at the seepage map, is not prone to seepage. So it’s highly unlikely to be addressed under the EEIP unless it starts leaking. It is prioritized based on condition rating

Folks! Not one tree will be removed unless it falls into the above mentioned categories and become a hindrance to the integrity of the embankment and the safety of the nearby residents.

The information is available to anyone and is very easy to use: https://www.nyscanalintegrity.org/program-and-maps