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Posted by: Doug K
« on: March 30, 2022, 06:13:55 pm »

It seems that some New York State Canal System misinformation can never get corrected.

Or this may still be part of the Disinformation Campaign being run by this Stop the Canal Clear-cut element on Facebook

Because it's been pretty clear for the past 5 years now, that since the New York Power Authority assumed responsibility for the NYS Canal Corporation, the entire NYS Canal System is being funded with NYPA Revenue... that means PROFITS folks.

And it is NOT a "burden" to NYS Taxpayers anymore.

Please, if you walk along the Erie Canal trails, or post on a Facebook protest group against canal safety, PLEASE stop telling people that "you" pay for the Erie Canal, just because you live in NY State and have to pay taxes. You are wrong... unless you happen to pay NYPA for your electricity bill.

Please, someone from that Facebook Group who is "secretly" reading this post, please correct your members inaccuracies and ridiculous statements moving forward. Especially Ms. Karen Anvelt, who seems to be misinformed on just about everything regarding how the NY Erie Canal is being run.
Posted by: Doug K
« on: January 22, 2020, 09:49:36 am »

It's simply amazing what you can find on the Internet...especially about something that has become as controversial as the NY State Barge Canal... more myth busting by the Erie Canal Neighbors Association.

It's been said by a certain group, fighting against any and all changes being undertaken along the Canal System, that "they" are "owners" of the Erie Canal, and that ownership gives them a right to stand in the way of Embankment Integrity work, stand in front of any Reimagine the Canal efforts, and object to anything else they feel isn't in the best interest of their group.

Hold the phone... this news article appears to contradict all of that. In fact, it now appears that with the recent change of ownership of the NY Canal System to New York Power in 2017, NY Taxpayers are NO LONGER on the hook to pay for the annual losses incurred trying to manage, maintain and operate this historical waterway.

New York Power Authority is now picking up the tab for the Canal System, as it has been doing since April 2016

If you read down through this article you will come to a section talking about the fact that the operation of the NY Canals has been "in the red" for many years, at the expense of both NY State Taxpayers and also NYS Thruway users who help subsidize the canal with Thruway tolls.

That all ended when NYPA took over the ownership & operation of the whole system

Read that statement from the NY Power Authority again:

In a written statement to NPR, the Power Authority says revenue from its hydropower plants, not taxpayers, is funding the canals from now on.

In the move to new ownership many things changed, besides the ongoing work to insure the Canal system is safe & sustainable for the next 100 years. We now understand that the move also means that costs to operate the canal  moved as well. No longer a burden on taxpayers, cost to operate, even at a loss, will be covered by the NY Power folks.

Any argument put forth, that say the public has a "right" to stand in the way of Canal public safety repair programs, or fight changes in how the NYS Canal system is managed or "Reimagined" based on the statement that "we all pay for the Erie Canal as taxpayers" is simply not true.. it's a bogus claim now that New York Power are the new owners.

This idea that "taxpayers" own the Erie Canal has been a major talking point by a group of "concerned citizens" who feel they have a right to interfere in decisions being made about canal safety & operation.

It now appears that the argument from this group can't hold water any better than the Barge Canal's unsafe embankments... another busted myth.