Erie Canal Neighbors Association

General Category => Response to Facebook Group Opposition => Topic started by: Michael Caswell on September 24, 2021, 03:54:56 pm

Title: Maier needs a lesson
Post by: Michael Caswell on September 24, 2021, 03:54:56 pm
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Maier seems to think what is growing on the canal embankments is "Natural Vegetation' like it's supposed to be there - naturally, I guess.

They're WEEDS  --  WEEDS!

As defined by NYDEC   please study this ----
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjt8oXJsZjzAhWOQc0KHWlZDfMQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dec.ny.gov%2Fdocs%2Flands_forests_pdf%2Fisprohibitedplants2.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3lkNkyx96hOt5zwHHP7IyP

Most of them are actually illegal to grow in New York State. Natural Vegetation eh!  Oh! Of course these steep slopes are now called "PARKS" All this new vocabulary, I'm having a job to keep up!
Title: Re: Maier needs a lesson
Post by: Doug K on September 24, 2021, 04:46:35 pm
The group seems quite upset by what amounts to "approved maintenance" for Canal property. So now do they think they can critique regular mowing and brush cutting?

In each case shown on their Facebook Page, the "vegetation management" meets the SEQR requirements set by the State, the "invasive vegetation" removal will allow for a thorough, proper inspection afterwards, and NO "community threshold" was met. No need to engage the public for their valued opinions. That's what the EEIP Guide says.

And that is if these locations being cleared and shown on Facebook were actually earthen canal embankments. Because this clearing doesn't appear to be part of EEIP

There seems to be no evidence to support that these are canal embankments, since no images of the Maintenance Trimming have any water showing in them...

I think the reason for the uproar is simple, with a group called Stop The Canal Clear-cut...

They just realized they haven't stopped anything...

Title: Re: Maier needs a lesson
Post by: Doug K on September 25, 2021, 06:22:31 pm
Seriously, you would think that someone who has been asking for "experts" to look at what's being removed from earthen dams, would understand if something is "invasive vegetation" BEFORE they start to praise it for growing where it causes safety issues on that dam.

Biology teacher Maier is under the impression that ANYTHING green is native vegetation and is OK for dam slopes. like Staghorn Sumac.

Of course the State & Federal requirements, for a vegetative free earthen dam, with only grass as a covering, doesn't seem to matter to this group, who won't accept these are "really dams".

At least that's not what the group is calling them this week.

Here's the Post about Embankments being cleared in Orleans County

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Here's the comments by "doctor" Maier

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And here's what's being removed...

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And why it's considered INVASIVE

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You would think this "expert", in all things Erie Canal, would understand that a Canal Maintenance Program to remove INVASIVE VEGETATION would actually do just that.

Maybe they should spend a little less time criticizing dam safety work, and start learning what's a weed, what's invasive, and why they can't seem to understand the written English language.
Title: Re: Maier needs a lesson
Post by: Michael Caswell on October 02, 2021, 11:38:39 am
Eileen Pavia says, "It's (Sumac) also used for erosion control on embankments because it spreads by its roots so it form a strong 'wall'"

Unfortunately, Eileen has missed the point here. We are talking about EARTHEN EMBANKMENT DAMS, not embankments. There is a HUGE difference, because 'embankments' do not hold back large volumes of water above a lower area. They do not have the effect of HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE pressing against them, and will not cause a flood.
The rules for Earthen Embankment Dams are much more stringent, and trees are not allowed on dams.

see  https://eriecanalfacts.wordpress.com/2017/12/20/is-it-a-dam-embankment-levee-ditch-or-dike/