Erie Canal Neighbors Association

General Category => Opposition to the Stop The Canal Clearcut Movement => Topic started by: Doug K on August 06, 2020, 02:37:48 pm

Title: Dr. Fauci explains why some groups like the STCC, fight against Public Health & Safety
Post by: Doug K on August 06, 2020, 02:37:48 pm
Covid 19, and the Coronavirus Pandemic have brought a new wrinkle to what constitutes Public Health, and for that matter Public Safety.

Many experts in the fields of Medicine & Public Health have merged to try and fight both a deadly virulent in our midst, but also have to fight the simple fact that most times the "public" is it's own worst enemy. Right now there is an ongoing debate in our country about what's right & wrong' when it comes to public safety... and the health of our nation as a whole.

Some folks, even some leaders, are still in "denial" that the Coronavirus is a bad as people like Dr. Fauci try to explain.

The failure to deny the Science and Statistics on just what a global pandemic can do to mankind, by simply saying "I don't believe" what the experts say is, finally being called out by one of the leading authorities on the Covid Crisis.. Dr Fauci himself.

Here's Dr. Fauci's thoughts from an interview about the issues his own family has faced, for his steadfast position of delivering the TRUTH about this virus and it's grip on our Country. Up holding that truth, even at the cost of family safety. He's almost amazed that ANYONE would consider taking the least safe path towards a solution. Read these a few times, remember, he could have chosen any topic to discuss...but this was on his mind the most.



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He goes on to say this as well.

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You can read the whole article here:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/08/05/dr-fauci-says-his-daughters-need-security-as-family-continues-to-get-death-threats.html


Public Heath - Public Safety, those two areas are one in the same, avoiding the possibility of a catastrophe that would affect large areas of the public.




And sadly the Erie Canal Neighbors Association has been pointing out the same type of disregard for the SAFETY of the PUBLIC, with this Facebook group calling themselves: Stop the Canal Clear-Cut.

It isn't Covid-19 that's the issue in our area, it's Unsafe Erie Canal Embankments that need to have trees removed to make us all safe again.

But it is EXACTLY the same type of people fighting these Public Safety efforts being made by the New York State Canal Corporation to fix canal dams.

The same New York State Canal Corporation who has promised to remedy the issue, to apply the right solution to fix the problem, based on Science & Engineering.

And this Facebook group fighting against fixing unsafe dams, well they are flying the flag of "Environmental Concern" which makes it alright to them. They are also trying to change the topic from Public Safety to Public Shade... or Oxygen loss, anything to avoid the truth the Trees on Dams are Unsafe. They have denied the issues with the safety of the canal system continually, with no evidence to support their claims that "Nothing is Wrong".

The OWNERS of the PROPERTY that is UNSAFE have stated personally to the leaders of this Facebook group they are wrong about ignoring safety!!

Folks, they have been just as much of an enigma to the ECNA, as that Covid weary "public" has been to Dr. Fauci.

It's hard to believe that so many in our area could be fooled by these Stop the Canal Clear Cut Leaders, who clearly lack the proper amount of knowledge and understanding to even be considered "leaders" Why anyone would abandon all common sense to deny the safety problem in the first place is amazing, but then to criticize the people who are trying to fix the problems... it borders on unthinkable. But it doesn't seem to matter, their opinion matters more to the followers of the STCC rhetoric than truth & fact.

Kind of like the public's perception of Covid, some still think a virus that kills at a 10X rate to the Flu is "Hype & Hoax". Everyone can understand the frustration Dr. Fauci (& the ECNA) must feel. You cant fake overflowing hospitals & funeral homes now can you?

Where is the Dr. Fauci of Dam Safety in America? The New York State Canal Corporation would like to have a word with you, I think.

I know several neighbors of the Erie Canal that absolutely would like to have a chat.

Because it's starting to look like some in our community will only accept the truth, and that they were wrong, after the Erie Canal floods and kills people.

Title: Re: Dr. Fauci explains why some groups like the STCC, fight against Public Health & Safety
Post by: Michael Caswell on August 09, 2020, 06:36:08 am
I was just about to post the following comments when I saw this one about Dr Fauci.

What a coincidence that I clicked on a link mistakenly and up popped this page

https://sites.google.com/view/eriecanalclearcutting/nypa-communications

A quick scan through it and I remembered the two letters to the STCC from Brian Stratton. They are worth a read folks because Mr Stratton explains, in no uncertain terms, why there is a difference between a dam and a levee, and why the dams are unsafe. He corrects several unsubstantiated claims by STCC members, and spells out the NYPA plan to remove vegetation from only high risk areas (dams).

So, why has the STCC published these letters? They can obviously read, but it just hasn't sunk in. Doesn't the publication of these letters make them look stupid? I don't see the STCC purpose in publishing them.

They are in complete denial of the truth apparently because they are still banging the same old drum.


Title: Re: Dr. Fauci explains why some groups like the STCC, fight against Public Health & Safety
Post by: Doug K on August 09, 2020, 09:16:28 am
Your question about the STCC Google website posting of these letters is baffling

"I don't see the STCC purpose in publishing them. They are in complete denial of the truth apparently because they are still banging the same old drum."

Mike, here's the most plausible reason for this letter writing:

The LEADERS of the Stop the Canal Clear-cut Group want to make sure their FOLLOWERS believe they are "important". After all, they "wrote" to the Governor AND the Head of the NYS Canal Corporation wrote back to them... see they hear us.

It's of no real consequence what the reply they received actually stated, they won't care and deny it's truth if it doesn't fit their narrow-minded views.

It really doesn't matter if the Governor or Brian Stratton discuss safety concerns for the public on this Embankment Integrity Program, the STCC Leaders also deny that safety is an issue or that the canal is broken.

The STCC group didn't even listen when the HEAD of the NYS Canal Corporation told this group they were MISTAKEN on their beliefs that "unsafe dams" along the Erie Canal don't need repairs and are "not dams".

In fact the ONLY thing that the STCC Leadership cared about was simple... that they actually got a reply.

Because they can then state to their FOLLOWERS that they are in "communication" with canal leaders and also claim that they are being heard by them.

There was no need for these STCC Leaders to say that what they complained about to the State, was easily dismissed as opinion & conjecture by the people who own the Canal System, and also own the problems trying to fix their public safety nightmare.

The STCC Founder & Leaders only care about the "optics" of sending letters of complaint, not actually reading or believing the replies they received that were trying to explain the group is mistaken about their rhetoric.

It's never really about the TRUTH, with this Facebook group, it's always been about the LIES they tell themselves, those same lies that they want all their followers to believe.

And the STCC Leadership expects their FOLLOWERS to take in the whole STCC charade, Hook Line & Sinker... fishing analogies work best on the Canal

The ONLY thing this Stop the Canal Clear-cut Facebook Group has actually stopped, it's the Dissemination of the TRUTH about Public Safety along the Erie Canal.

And in doing so they have also lost the RESPECT of people that matter, like the Governor, and the Head of the NYS Canal Corporation, and their parent company, New York Power Authority.

Sadly they have NOT lost respect of the Fairport & Perinton community they live within. The same PUBLIC being kept in danger from unsafe dams, because a few STCC Leaders are to proud to understand this phrase.. "You don't know what you don't know".

Mark Twain knew the danger of leaders like those running the STCC and followers who believe them.

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And here's the BEST advice the ECNA has for the STCC
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