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Here is Mr Kendig's post link  https://mrtreeservices.com/blog/know-tree-roots-prevent-soil-erosion/

Note that this is all about trees that are NOT GROWING ON AN EARTHEN EMBANKMENT DAM!

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE!  Why don't these folks get it?
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It never ceases to amaze me that members of this radical group simply do not listen to hydrologists, arborists, dam safety engineers,  FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers. They do not even believe their "own" experts it seems

They have heard from a couple people like an aging levee expert, Professor Donald Gray, who has stated quite clearly," I donít know of any earth dams where woody vegetation was purposely planted or allowed to grow on a face of the dam."

See this story https://eriecanalfacts.wordpress.com/2018/04/19/testimony-in-question-vegetation-on-dams/




And they were told about the dam safety issue by David Rosgen, who stated this very clearly to the Facebook Group and we have his email to them here:     

https://ecna.createaforum.com/general-discussion/important-announcement-coming-soon/msg178/#msg178

Mr. Rosgen Hydrology Website - https://wildlandhydrology.com/


Both of these experts have denounced trees on a Dam!  Owners can't manage a Dam safely with overgrown trees on it.  The hydro-static pressure can easily cause a breach and a catastrophic flood. The tree roots cause water piping and slumps that turn into floods and loss of life.

The Stop the Canal Clear Cut Leaders, Ms Agte, Meuwissen, Maier et al know these facts, but refuse to believe or promote them. Instead they continue to harass and irritate the good people of the NYPA with phone calls and emails, harping on the same old nonsense they have spewed out for months.

And then they wonder why no one bothers to reply to them?

Ah! Well.



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Pretty astounding transformation, and one that few people understand was done to save lives & save the Erie Canal







Embankment Grass Cutting Day - Sept 14, 2020





For those who STILL can't see that Erie Canal Embankments are Dams... our drone view shows it well

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Looks like a section of overhanging trees posed a danger to the Canal Waterway in the Town of Sweden today. There was a crew clearing the trees off the south embankment using a barge rigged with a grappling arm and saw. Trees were being stacked on another barge that was located withing arms length and the Tug was working along to hold the location on the waterway.

Many groups of people nearby, were watching while they fished.





Trees were dropped into the channel, and picked out if needed, we saw a splash and the arm came out with the debris to stack.





The Tugboat was an older model, and was churning the water as it held the whole operation in place along the South Bank





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Mike,  I'm pretty sure that the consensus about Erie Canal Safety in Fairport & Pittsford has come down to this sad statement:

If people don't believe Canal Embankments are unsafe, they simply won't be hurt or killed or have property & lives swept away in a Flood, because there is NOTHING wrong with the Canal, so nothing is going to happen to them.

Much easier for Town & Village official to take the "ostrich approach" and simply stick their heads in the sand when it comes to Erie Canal Embankment Dam safety.


Someone who DIDN'T stick their head in the sand, when it comes to BLM & Diversity issues in Fairport, is the Deputy Mayor there. Here's his statement from June 2020, when the Black Lives Matter movement was hitting it's stride, turning protests into policy. We posted this earlier, and it still rings true today.

Sadly it won't change anything in a Town or Village that doesn't think a 'whitewashed community' is any worse for them than unsafe earthen canal dams.


https://ecna.createaforum.com/fairport-village/fairport-deputy-mayor-postson-facebook-re-blm/msg1171/#msg1171
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And just so you understand how dilapidated this canal system is, here is a major repair carried out a couple of years ago. If this hadn't been done, many people living around Jefferson Avenue could have perished in an Erie Canal embankment breach.

https://eriecanalfacts.wordpress.com/2018/04/14/340/
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To be clear, this appears to be following a pattern in the both towns & villages, but Perinton / Fairport are by far the least diverse.

No wonder a few Black Lives Matter signs were torn down in the past months by a few locals in Fairport, it appears they just don't fit there...




As always, here are the links to check the facts, the ECNA shares few opinions and mostly facts that support the truth being told here.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/perintontownmonroecountynewyork

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/pittsfordtownmonroecountynewyork



Do the math yourself... here's the averages for New York State & Monroe County





https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/monroecountynewyork

https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/new-york-population
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With all that has been seen on our local news lately, regarding the BLM movement, it would appear that the Mayors of Pittsford & Fairport have much BIGGER issues to solve in their respective Villages besides tree-covered Canal Embankments.

Trying to stop a safety program aimed to help residents, shouldn't be something considered as "a good use of their time".

They can chose to continue a fight AGAINST the safety of their residents and try to stop this needed Erie Canal Embankment repair & maintenance work. Or they could fight the huge DIVERSITY ISSUES in their own neighborhoods and work to change what looks to be a very "white-washed" community.

Once again it's the numbers that don't lie, and the facts thet tell the REAL story... just like data that supports Erie Canal repairs. 









Here's the websites that have been condensed down to fit in those two pictures


https://www.roadsnacks.net/whitest-cities-in-new-york/

http://www.city-data.com/city/Pittsford-New-York.html

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/pittsford-ny-population
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Just to be crystal clear, here's what the towns east of Rochester are fighting about. it's what repaired Canal Embankments look like, when they are made SAFE AGAIN

https://ecna.createaforum.com/eerp-phase-3-discussion-board-evergreen-barrier-planting/erie-canal-embankment-trail-work-is-now-complete-see-the-latest-pictures/?message=1270

Here's two pictures from that story...






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If it hasn't sunk in yet... the Erie Canal is lined with Embankment Dams, 127 miles of them. These earthen dams haven't been seen in many years due to the number of trees covering them. They also haven't been inspected, which should worry those living below them... for miles.

This is what it looked like in 2017, just before the initial clearing.




And since the New York State Canal Corporation, and their parent company New York Power Authority, decided to embark on an Earthen Embankment safety program, to clear the danger and make these embankment dams "safe again", there has been an uproar in the Rochester area, which has now boiled over to the point where people are making fools of themselves, trying to fight against public safety initiatives in our area.

Worse yet, the folks fighting against dam safety, are doing it in the name of the environment. That would be the same "'environment' that the Canal Corporation is trying to protect, from what could be a devastating flood... yes flood like Midland Michigan. The dam that broke in Midland was the same height as many along the Erie Canal in our area. One thing the Midland folks wanted and didn't get, was an advanced warning about the flood danger. Rochester has been told about the danger and many are choosing to fight against it, online, on Facebook.

Sadly the voice of the true Canal Neighbors to these unsafe Earthen Dams, have been drowned out by the voices of those who are casual guests of NYPA. They are folks who walk along the top of the dams, on the Canal Corporation's Empire Trail, and they feel taking away "trees" is a sin. Even unsafe, dangerous ones making 127 miles of ERie Canal Dams unsafe...

But enough about "a fools journey"



So we've been showing this embankment transformation on the ECNA Forum for a few years now... my wife & I see it every day and wonder why we never saw it before. Take a look and see the difference a change in vegetation does to an embankment dam... this section is 400' long, about 16' tall.





Now you look at these pictures and decide... do you see an embankment dam?







And guess what, it's no surprise that most people using the Trail and Canal now say the Erie Canal looks BETTER with grass along the Empire Trail, grass that is now covering those long earthen dams which used to be covered with trees. That is the consensus from impromptu polling in our backyard.

Can you imagine that? Good looking. better views & SAFER too, it's a miracle!

And what of the Canal Corporation and New York Power Authority? Well they were able to fix 20% of their Unsafe Embankments just like this, in spite of the failed efforts of  a well meaning, but mis-guided Facebook group, trying to stand in their way... you know who you all are.


Here's the view from the Bottom of the Embankment



And from the Top of "The Dam in our Backyard"




Many people around the Rochester area have been spreading false narratives and "fake news" about this Canal Embankment Program, let's set the record straight now:

1) As you can see the grass (and weeds) are nice & green. The grass does get mowed periodically, more than the FEMA required two per season mowing. Was it brown in the heat of summer? Yes, of course, just like the grass in our own backyards.

2) The embankment is not "washing away" or eroding now that grass has replaced the trees, no big washouts as some have stated. Very stable & SAFE, even in the worst downpours we have had lately.

3) There is plenty of wildlife along these "new" embankments, we see fox, deer, geese and plenty of raccoons. There are no burrowing animals here now. And plenty of waterfowl and raptors are now easy to see, no trees block the view.

4) The Canal Corporation can now find and MARK the leaks on the dams, which was impossible to do before. We have four pink "leak" stakes here on our dam, and those leak everyday. Of course the repaired Tow Drain System now catches and diverts that leaking water where it should go.

5) The visitor traffic on the Empire Trail is alive & well. Some folks said that visitors & tourists would stop using the Erie Canal with the trees gone, that didn't happen. If anything, the Covid pandemic has brought more people out to use the Waterway & Empire Trail this season, and many people from other countries are raving about the look... it's what is normal to them.

6) All of the trees are NOT GONE as you can see in the pictures, just the dangerous ones on the earthen dams, still have shade, still have plenty of oxygen here. Many trees are left still, just not on the earthen embankments. So anyone or any group saying that the Canal Corporation will "take down all the trees". is simply spreading false information.



Just a reminder about the phony narrative and fake news regarding this Canal Embankment work. Normally these statements seem to come from "fake environmentalist" trying to push an agenda that has nothing to do with community safety or canal sustainability. It's more about their narrow-minded views of any changes to the Erie Canal that might upset the little worlds they have created for themselves on their walk along it.



These folks tend to say: 'If it's not broke don't fix it', but sadly they can't understand the Canal is broken and this is what a proper repair looks like. What you see in these pictures is summed up by these two words... Safer Dams

But it may just take a devastating flood of Canal Neighbors to prove the Canal is a catastrophe just waiting to happen, especially to this group of Facebook folks fighting against change...

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