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Doug K

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ETIP - Is it a new acronym we will see soon from the New York State Canal Corporation?

ETIP = Empire Trail Integrity Program - The work involved keeping the ECT operational, safe and sustainable for NYS Canal System Users.



https://www.facebook.com/nycanals/?ref=stream

If you read the notice from Facebook, from the NYS Canal Corporation it appears that while this work is NOT part of their Earthen Embankment Integrity Program (EEIP), it sure is a "close cousin". That EEIP work is centered around the REMOVAL of all invasive vegetation from the inner and outer embankment slopes of the Canal Waterway, and this NEW work is not removal... it's "trimming" or that's what stated.

How much trimming this ETIP program will perform is yet to be seen...but it could be that this is the 'precursor' needed for future work along the Canal Corridor that lays the foundation for those Embankment Integrity efforts.

Just how high, or how far back should unsafe trees be trimmed, along an active NYS Public Trail?

I would guess far enough away so that NO LIMBS can fall on a Trail User, and the tree limbs should be cut HIGH enough so they DO NOT POSE a danger to the integrity of the trail, trail users or the embankment they are growing from... wouldn't that make sense?

And in some cases a 'danger tree' should be removed, for public safety,  and safety of NYPA employees.

https://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/5276.html


I have a feeling that some people in Perinton, Pittsford & Fairport will be "up in arms" about this and a group of Facebook "warriors" will be blasting the Canal Corporation and NYPA for yet another "big conspiracy" on a certain Facebook Page.

Anyone want to disagree with that last statement?
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As expected, this Facebook group is a predictable as death & taxes, and once again it's that member "Karen" who's up in arms... her husband's favorite raspberry bush is gone.



They could have looked at the Canal Corporation FB page, to get this information, instead they chose to pester Bill Smith, who's still saying the EEIP program is "stopped"... lol

Let's call that "wishful thinking" Bill, the SEQR came back, the NYSCC has proven their case and NYS DEC agrees, dangerous Dams need trees removed... PERIOD!

And yes... the call has gone out... Tree Huggers Unite


I hope these people know that each tree they decide to hug may just cost them $100 in fines, according to the NYS Canal Law. It's unlawful to leave the TRAIL!

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Folks. Karen Anvelt lives in what I consider to be a very dangerous situation, right under the dam, where a culvert flows UNDER the canal. I saw this culvert in full flow as it raged past her house. The dam is extremely steep and has huge trees growing on it. I'd be scared silly living there, but I guess if common sense is a little lacking, one could simply ignore the danger.

Unbelievable.

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Mike...you said Common Sense is a little lacking? A little???

Any sense is lacking from most members in this Facebook group; common, logical, or any other type. Half the group starts the conspiracy theories, the other half swallows it all, hook, line & sinker.

If you look up the word 'senseless' in the dictionary it says - SEE: Stop the Canal Clear-cut".

I'm sure that we haven't heard the end of the NYPA Tree Trimming issue. The group hasn't used the words; destruction, devastation, and horrible yet.

That's always the way the STCC group describes what most people understand to be simply routine tree maintenance.

And the group's "Karen" still hasn't whined nearly enough about "her husband's" raspberry bush that happens to be growing on a NYS-owned Embankment Dam.

And an unsafe dam at that... Go Figure.

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Favorite 'raspberry bush' cut down? Where have I heard THAT before?  Ummmm!
Oh! Yes, none other than Eerie Agte back in the day when we just had a permit from the CC to clean up the Oxbow. She moaned that her favorite raspberry bush had been cut down.
We mowed the weed down, and boy did they **** and moan about it. the Calias, LJ Fisher & partner Ms Oren, and of course, Eerie Lizzie and her partner Harvey Gross.  The called themselves The Oxbow Forum or some such. Did they ever go on about it. Thankfully, the CC didn't take too much notice, but the monster was born here.

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This is a copy of a letter, sent to town leaders like "Wishful Bill Smith", and all other communities east of Rochester, sometime in November of last year.



Re: Earthen Embankment Integrity Program (EEIP)

Notice of Release of Final Generic Environmental Impact Statement (FGEIS) and Final Embankment Guide Book (Guide Book)

The New York State Canal Corporation (NYSCC), as Lead Agency, has completed the Final Generic Environmental Impact Statement document for the proposed Barge Canal Earthen Embankment Integrity Program. This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 (State Environmental Review Act) of the Environmental Conservation Law.

The NYSCC is also releasing a Final Embankment Maintenance Guide Book, which is its primary governance document for implementation of the EEIP. The FGEIS and Final Guide Book documents, including redline versions illustrating changes from the draft documents and responses to comments, are available for download on November 30, 2022, at https://www.nyscanalintegrity.org.

The purpose of the EEIP is to implement a documented comprehensive Canal System embankment inspection and maintenance program to restore, maintain, and manage the integrity of embankments within the Canal System. Specifically, the scope includes all embankment material and impairments, along with turf, vegetation, armoring or paving that is parallel to the embankment slopes and surfaces from outside the toe of the outboard slope of the canal or feeder to the toe of the inboard embankment slope. It includes water recording and management features used in regulation of water levels in the canal and feeders, and geotechnical instrumentation devices. It also includes design and implementation of certain alternative solutions to vegetation removal, as well as amenities such as supplemental compatible vegetation.

The Generic EIS provided analyses regarding the potential for impact from EEIP activities on Land, Geologic Features and National Natural Landmarks, Surface Waters and Wetlands, Groundwater, Floodplains, Ecology (Plants and Animals), Agricultural Resources, Aesthetic Resources, Historic and Archaeological Resources, Open Space and Recreational Resources, Transportation Resources, Noise, Odor, Light, Human Heath, Community Plans, and Community Character. Potential significant impacts were identified, and avoidance, minimization and mitigation of these impacts were presented for those impacts. Individual EEIP segments would be screened, and those that would cause significant environmental impacts would be mitigated. Any individual EEIP segments that could not be mitigated would require a supplemental SEQR review or a separate SEQR review.

Please feel free to share this information, including the FGEIS and Final Guide Book documents, with your community. If you require additional information regarding the Final Guide Book or FGEIS, please call me at (518) 433-6841.

Sincerely yours,

James Candiloro, PE
Director, Environment, Health & Safety



It will be very hard for any of the civic leaders to cry "ignorance" of the Erie Canal System's public safety issues going forward.

Warnings have been made in the SEQR Impact Statement, regarding the unsafe earthen canal embankments. The general public and local communities can continue to ignore the information and warnings, but they do so at their own risk, NYS has been very clear, and can't be held accountable for the stupidity of the public, or those who say they are "working in the publicís best interest.

Read more about how Pittsford's Town Supervisor has been twisting the truth about Erie Canal Embankment Dams

https://ecna.createaforum.com/perinton-canal-embankment-discussion/pittsford-town-supervisor-is-a-dammed-liar!/

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