Author Topic: Perinton Facebook Group says there are too many trees being replanted on the Canal now.  (Read 27 times)

Doug K

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Just when the NYS Canal Corporation was planning to pat themselves on the back, for pleasing their NEIGHBORS along the  canal embankments west of Rochester, with their new Embankment Restoration planting, along comes that Perinton-based opposition group (called Stop the Clear Cut on Facebook) to "poo-poo" that idea.

It appears now that one of the group's Leaders, Ms. Ginny Maier, is complaining about too many trees, being planted with minimal spacing, while other members in the group pretend to be Professional Arborist, and make statements about the "certain death" of all these newly planted shrubs. Most of these folks apparently missed the memo that all of this work was done by PROFESSIONAL landscape planners with actual experience as arborist and learned in the field of Horticulture.

I guess the Facebook group & it's members went from being "experts" in Earthen Dam Restoration" to now being "experts" on Horticulture & Barrier Screen Planting.







You would think that sometime, one of the "REAL" neighbors along the Erie Canal living west of Rochester, would tell this Facebook group the truth... that they LIKE the NEW shrubs that were planted, and they APPRECIATE that the Canal Corporation kept their word on Embankment RESTORATION.

But that might ruffle some feathers in this Facebook group, especially with "leadership". And that type of rebuke would get those members tossed out for "insubordination" by the Group's Founder, one Ms. Elizabeth Agte. It wouldn't be the first time outspoken members would be silenced.

Funny that NO ONE in this Facebook group ever talks about the simple fact that MORE trees/shrubs were planted as part of the EERP work than were removed. Word from the NYS canal Corporation is that they will have added 1700 "plants" along their CLEARED, GRASS COVERED, embankments west of Rochester, when their EERP restoration work is done in late May.

Because I happen to be an actual Erie Canal Neighbor and have watched this embankment work unfold now for 3+ years. I can share that there were 37 total dead or dying trees removed along our 400' embankment, along with a few live trees. In it's place the Canal Corporation planted 80 Restoration Shrubs of 5-6 different varieties. And some of those new plantings were over 8' tall, certainly the NYS Canal Corporation did not take the path most thought here, they planted very large shrubs, not seedlings.

The new shrubs have been watered and fertilized several times in the past month, and all look to be just fine, planted to promote & enhance the privacy of Canal Neighbors from the Erie Canal Trail users.  Some of those Trail Users who seem to think their opinions matter more as  canal property "guests", than the issues faced by those people who are actual live next to the Trail and are neighbors of the Canal. After all, we have to tolerate rude and careless Trail Users on a daily basis, FULL TIME, while these Facebook whiners just play the role of rude trail user part time during their walkabout.

Empire Trail users like Ms. Agte, and Ms Maier, who think because they happen to walk on the "top" of an Earthen Dam, they know everything about that dam. These Facebook group leaders are NOT neighbors along the Canal, they are only "part-time" guests of the corporation that owns the Empire Trail. And now it seems because they simply looked a few tree pictures on Facebook, they have become "instant experts" in horticulture & landscaping an embankment dam.


Sadly these Facebook opposition "leaders" can't even figure out they are fighting on the wrong side, fighting to keep the Erie Canal a DANGER in their own community.

What Danger you ask? Why the danger from falling trees on the Trail and water, and danger from the roots of overgrown vegetation compromising an earthen hill holding back millions of gallons of water from flooding Fairport.


And what's maybe the hardest pill to swallow, for Erie Canal Neighbors located in Perinton & Fairport, is that now, thanks 100% to that Facebook Group fighting canal maintenance, any future embankments cleared as part of the new Embankment Integrity Program (EEIP) will not be offered "automatic restoration" similar to what neighbors west of Rochester received.

Instead, Erie Canal Neighbors in the Perinton area, will need to plead their case for "mitigation" of possible Empire Trail privacy issues.

And they will have to support their request for a barrier planting using the new EEIP Guidebook on Embankment Clearing Procedures. And from what we have heard about the guidance, the case for Restoration Planting will be an "uphill" battle, excuse the pun.

Honestly, the whole idea of a group opposing canal safety maintenance is a load of poop. Sadly it's been made worse by a community with it's head in the sand it was built upon.

Wake up Fairport!

Wake up Perinton!

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Michael Caswell

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Doug! Talking of Poo Pooing Safety, and a load of Crap, just take a look! !



Guess what is going on down the Oxbow.

It seems that some don't appreciate the work that has gone into maintaining The Bow, and they are expressing their dislike by leaving bags of dog shite in one place. They add to it every day. I guess they think I am going to pick it up. Well, sorry folks, not going to happen.

There are certainly one or two low life's living in Fairport by the looks of how they treat our Park. And many who use the Oxbow Trail actually are PART of that Facebook Opposition, so I'm sure they have somehow justified that being a litterbug is somehow OK but they support "trees & shade".

What a sad state our Community is in


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Mike, I hear you loud and clear... low life people, those who think they own the world. Somehow many of them believe others exist merely to pickup after them and their pets. These types seem to run amok in Perinton and Fairport, especially at the Oxbow, now that it's been cleared out as part of NYS Adopt a Trail.

We see the same thing here in Brockport, most of the time the trail users, who drag their pets along for a walk, somehow can't seem to figure out that the Empire Trail isn't a 335 mile long "dog park" for their pet to meander about unleashed. Nor is is a huge "linear toilet" for they pooch to poop where it pleases, with owners who can't seem to muster enough strength to "bend over and pick up after their pet".

But the solution is simple...

Report the Pet Owner Issues to NY State Parks & Trails or to the new Empire Trail Group who put these rules into place.



https://empiretrail.ny.gov/trail-safety#:~:text=Dogs.,On%2DRoad%20Sections.

And once the folks at Parks & Trails reply to you, maybe suggest that they they start to implement better solutions for their Canalside Trail property, like Pet Poop Perpetrator identification through DNA analysis.



https://mrdogpoop.com/splash/compare.html

It's easy enough to identify the DOG BREED. And then you simply find the dog & owner next time they hit the Oxbow to dump another load of crap.


https://www.livescience.com/26267-dog-poop-dna.html

And that can be done quite easily, with a few well placed Trail Observation cameras that are commonly used to snap photos of game in the wild. You don't need to catch the pet owner in the act of being low life scum, you only need the DNA analysis combined with the owner and that dog breed.


https://www.amazon.com/Hunting-120%C2%B0Wide-Angle-Waterproof-Wildlife-Monitoring/dp/B08DJ5WKVQ/ref=zg_bs_3413551_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2E1FQNFXV1H2TT450H09

I will be down to the Oxbow in a few days, I'll look at putting a few Trail Cameras up and let's see if we can identify the "poopertrator" and then we can send that info along to the NYS Parks & Trails folks so that they can tell these rude pet owners NOT to use their Trail unless they can abide by THEIR set rules


And perhaps it's time to get a set of those rules posted on some new SIGNAGE down at the Oxbow Trail, that is also just a request made to Parks & Trails. After all, they have listed the need for pet owners to pickup their pet's droppings under the Empire Trail Safety section for a reason:

Pet poop can be hazardous to HUMAN health, and the health of other DOGS who happen along to take a sniff.





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