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Michael Manjerovic
« on: March 17, 2024, 06:52:29 pm »
Well! Folks, it's been a while but it would appear that we have a new person to join the illogical folks that walk amongst us.

Of course, this is all happening on the ridiculous site we know as NEXTDOOR.COM

With regard to the proposed project known as The Burgundy Inn, he proposed the following --
 If the foundation/pilings are properly erected, I suspect that will reinforce the embankment, not weaken it. As such, I think your assumption is greatly flawed. I'm an engineer but not a civil engineer. It would be interesting to hear from a civil engineer

I gave him the names of several Civil Engineers specializing in canals and dams, but he chose to refuse to read that.
Here is my message to him.

To get you up to speed - www.eriecanalfacts.wordpress.com will give you a ton of information.

I'm intrigued as to your comments here. Firstly, how do you think that foundation pilings are going to reinforce a defective earthen embankment dam (EAD), of which the height to base length is less than 1:1, when it should be 1(H) :2 (Base) of the slope triangle. As determined by civil engineers specializing in EAD construction, eg ASDSO,FEMA, USACE, NYPA, USDEC, Rizzo ENG etc. etc.

 The slope needs to be lengthened to provide the proper stability which would be almost impossible.

These engineers all say - NO TREES ON A DAM

The property in question is in a dam hazard zone, and planning permission should never be granted.

So, I ask you to read the data I have provided. I think that any engineer worth his salt would rail against any construction under a dangerous dam, and press for the complete removal of vegetation on their outward slopes.

Regular inspections for leaks and defects are vital to keep our neighbors safe, and it can't be done with all this crap growing over them, and it hinders heavy machinery in the event of a problem.

Michael Caswell. ECNA founder

My first thoughts were, what sort of an engineer is he? LEGO?

Here is his response --
Michael Manjerovic 1:50 pm
Well, I'm not going to read anything else so here's my opinion. Whether or not there's a development built there, the chance of a major break is extremely low and, if built, the resulting loss of life won't be materially different. And, building the development will likely result in additional dam break risk assessment versus doing nothing, and perhaps some changes will be made to further reduce the risk. Regarding the foundation/pilings and considering nothing will be more than three stories, more solid material/structures in the earth, the better. That's why they build foundations. They don't build them to weaken the gound
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So here we have yet another idiot who has no idea what he is talking about, nor will take the time to do any further investigation, even when it's put under his nose.
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Re: Michael Manjerovic
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2024, 11:53:26 am »
Another post on Nextdoor from Mr Mangerovic

Run for your lives! Perhaps they should immediately block all use of the canal path. I'm sure the walkers and bicyclists will be delighted that their lives are safe. This is just another example of catastrophizing.

He refuses to believe the experts he asked for, and those experts are telling him these dams are dangerous!

We are beyond help here if people wont believe the truth.
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Re: Michael Manjerovic is NOT an Engineer!
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 08:11:33 am »
I read this statement: I'm an engineer but not a civil engineer. It would be interesting to hear from a civil engineer

Mike, you gave him the names of several Civil Engineers specializing in canals and dams, but he chose to refuse to read their information or contact any directly.

And that's where the clue is to my statement made in this post's title: Mr Mangerovic refused to "learn something new", which is the trademark of any Engineer worth his salary.

Are we all supposed to ignore an Engineer that gave his "opinion" on a public safety issue without FULL Knowledge of the gravity of the situation too?

Are we suppose to accept his "supposition" on pilings & building foundations adding support to an earthen dam, when neither of those will stop leaks or hold back millions of gallons of water? Buildings AND sometimes their foundations DO get washed away in floods... they aren't built to withstand floods, they are built to support building weight.

Michael,  I'm surprised at you, you KNOW that Fairport Nextdoor is littered with social misfits from a Facebook group who's dead set on letting the Canal System degrade to the point of collapse. The call themselves the Stop the Canal Clear-cut, and have made it their mission to ignore the truth about Erie Canal Embankments. They accept the musings and misinformation from people like Mr Manjerovic, and run with it... preferring opinions over the plain truth.

And the hallmark of that group is similar to what this dipshit had to offer... a complete denial that there is any safety issue at all along the Erie Canal.

I think you're wasting your time here.. you and I have learned one important fact about life on the eastside of Rochester... "You can't fix stupid that's hiding all around Fairport".

You can't even get the Mayor or Town Supervisor to stand up for public safety along the Erie Canal... too many there are playing politics with "resident safety".

And by the way, Mr Manjerovic says it all in his reply...

Well, I'm not going to read anything else, so here's my opinion:

"The resulting loss of life won't be materially different. Whether or not there's a development built there, the chance of a major break is extremely low.


These statements made by Mike Manjerovic simply ignore years of research & analysis, by many Engineers who are much more qualified to speak on this topic then Majerovic, and all of them say DOING NOTHING is not an option anymore, doing nothing is what caused the Erie Canal System to become the public danger it is today.

And while Mr Manjerovic may think the "loss of life" ratios may be within his acceptable limits, the New York Power Authority has stated plainly that the loss of ONE LIFE is too many, when it comes to fixing embankment dam safety issues.

And as far as Erie Canal breaks go, major issues in Royalton & Macedon prove this guy wrong. One was a breach of an embankment, the other a series of leaks causing sinkholes, and that "minor repair" is costing millions to repair with a special bentonite wall.

How sad for the Fairport Community that so many local "experts" are ignoring the safety of their neighbors (and themselves), with these simplistic, idiotic viewpoints...

Worse yet, these experts always seem to open their mouth publicly and let everyone know that any education system in Fairport is broken, broken now for many generations.
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Re: Michael Manjerovic
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2024, 11:00:06 pm »
Doug

You said 'Michael,  I'm surprised at you, you KNOW that Fairport Nextdoor is littered with social misfits from a Facebook group who's dead set on letting the Canal System degrade to the point of collapse. "

There should be no surprises there Doug. You know full well what I think of these pricks!   ::)

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Re: Michael Manjerovic is a Danger to Fairport
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2024, 08:24:04 am »
I thought you had sworn off reading what stupid people write on the Nextdoor platform? At the least I thought a good old alter boy like yourself would have SWORN OFF reading social media for the Lenten Season. You know what poison is being spread on Fairport Nextdoor & the local Facebook groups. Steer clear, stay healthy.

Personally I've given up a couple things for Lent....

I'm abstaining from any Agte nonsense, and I've given up watching the STCC membership make fools of themselves.

But the BIG question is this.... What ever happened to Mr Kevin Gallagher and his "expertise" on all things related to the Erie Canal? Perhaps he finally 'looked in the mirror'.

It appears that BOTH Ms Agte & Ms Borden-Maier are FINALLY being seen for the charlatans they have become... the snake oil they are touting is "shade". And sadly that "shade" comes at a very high price for the public, the SAFETY of everyone else using the Erie Canal.
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Re: Michael Manjerovic
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2024, 11:12:10 am »
Alter boy? Ha! Ha! Now THAT is funny. 

But this is 'sport' Doug.  I can hardly wait to see what drivel they come up with next. It's been very quiet over at the STCC, so my 'pickins" have been slim.

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One thing is for certain, the STCC is slowly losing it's drive.

It has no leadership anymore, as Lizzy & Ginny are all but absent from posting these days. Mr Manjerovic seems to have become something of a poster child for this warped & frustrated group... he epitomizes the group's "don't believe anyone but us" idea. Even when the truth is shared with these folks they chose to ignore that truth and instead cling to the fantasies & opinions of their deranged leadership. And he posts on Nextdoor instead of Faceplace, I wonder why?

The STCC group is losing members, it has no guidance at all now, and when the group's FOUNDER puts out a call to come help "clean the canal trail' in a sponsored event, they manage to get only 1 person to respond, ONE out of a membership that's supposedly 1100 strong. I guess that shows it all, doesn't it?

These folks would rather **** & complain about others who are trying to fix the Erie Canal System & make is safe & sustainable, and the only thing STCC members want to do is whine about it and avoid all efforts to make the canal better themselves... go figure.

Can't lift a finger to help, but are very eager to exercise their mouths to complain about those who try to help.





Only ONE word comes to mind, when looking at Ms Agte and her Stop the Canal Clear-cut group...PATHETIC!

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Re: Michael Manjerovic
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2024, 12:31:47 am »
PATHETIC

Indeed, nothing has changed over 6 years

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I respectively will disagree with that statement; "nothing has changed in 6 years"... here's just a short list.

1) The ECNA formed, and shined a light on the deception & disinformation being spread on Facebook by the group formally known as the STCC.

2) Two leaders of that social media group, Ms Agte & Ms Maier, have been exposed for the mis-truths they've spread, and have lost favor with the NYSCC & NYPA.

3) The ECNA has spread the message about public safety, which has been heard by 10s of Thousands who've visited www.ecna.us or this discussion Forum

4) Embankment Clearing & Repair continues today, under the umbrella of the EEIP program, and protesting on the trails is non-existent while work goes on.

5) The New York State Canal Corp. & NYPA have had the last word on Public Safety in the Erie Canal Corridor, they were right and that STCC Group was WRONG. 

I could go on with more examples, like the STCC experts have all been refuted as "fanciful opinions, not facts" or the group itself is floundering with zero leadership, but what purpose would that serve? Suffice to say this whole thing went pretty much the way most controversial issues go these days...

Those who listened to both sides of the argument have made up their minds already.

Some smart people followed the truth, the facts, and REAL expert knowledge on embankment repair and safety, while a few "not-so-smart" folks listened to the musings & misgivings of a beekeeper & biology teacher, who BOTH claimed to be "experts" in all things related to Erie Canal Construction & Embankment Dam Safety.

Some followed the right path, while others didn't,  what else is new these days?

I WILL agree with you on one thing for sure, about this Facebook Group, the STCC Leadership, and anyone who would follow a group that's NOT advocating for the highest degree of public safety in NY State, the highest safety practices around a 100 year old waterway made up of 100s of miles of unsafe, aging earthen dams... isn't that the RIGHT choice here?

I wholeheartedly agree that this has all been rather pathetic.


YES... PATHETIC!

There's no better word to describe it... you are so right Michael!
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