Author Topic: AT LAST! The first sign of common sense from the STCC Facebook page.  (Read 40 times)

Michael Caswell

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The cracks are appearing  - more every day.
It seems Ms Agte has been bugging half of New York's bureaucracy to discover 'dirt' on the trapping of Woodchucks.

She's so wrong on so many points. If the bait in these traps is an apple or vegetable, it's highly unlikely a cat is going to be interested. Most homeowners backing onto these embankments are going to be pissed off with dogs running riot over their embankments, and people should stay on the trail, they have no business on the slopes. These are embankment dams, not some tourist attraction.

It's all so negative, and obviously, as usual, the STCC tries to portray the Canal Corp in a bad light.

But a Mr Cody Butlin, a resident whose property backs onto the embankment, has voiced his opinion here -

Notice Mr Mangefrida doesn't understand the comparison of a woodchuck burrow leaking water from the canal would look like a fire hydrant opened at full force.

And I have to ask, all the concern for the poor dead woodchucks from many in this pitiful parade of people, and not one person sees the danger of these burrowing animals in these dams - except Mr Butlin, and he's getting shouted down. I wonder how long it will be before he's banned?

I don't understand why no one has once mentioned the loss of HUMAN LIFE that could occur because of ONE woodchuck burrow. There are hundreds of small kids in the Jefferson Ave school, not a couple of hundred yards away from a 50 foot high wall of water that would flow for SIX hours if the dam broke in Fairport.

Notice that most of those saying it's cruel to kill these rodents are women. I find that really weird, because you would have thought they'd be supportive of ensuring the SAFETY of the families and children living underneath these dams.  Shame on them!

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Doug K

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So if Mr. Mangefrida Jr. didn’t see something happen along the Erie Canal it couldn’t have happened? Really?

Well the date was May 10, 2008 in the Town of Sweden, just west of Brockport along the south side of the Erie Canal… that was the last time I think there was a woodchuck based embankment breach in our area…  if you mean the “western section”  of the NYS Barge Canal.

What do I win?

Oh wait... you want proof that I know what I’m talking about? Why didn’t Mr. Mangefrida or any of the STCC have to produce proof for their outrageous claims? Well I have proof… here’s a small selection of pictures I put in a collage...

This was on West Canal Rd, in the town of Sweden, which runs west off Redman Rd. There are only a handful of houses here and one of the owners saw that “fire hydrant” pouring into the basin in front of their house and called the Canal Corporation to fix it. I was called to photograph and video the whole thing by an employee of the NYCC. They wanted to see the repair from the road view... and I had access to the service road for this dam section. I have more pictures if anyone is interested in seeing them... let me know.

Here’s about 2 minutes of pounding the emergency plate into the embankment dam to FIX the woodchuck burrow leak on W.Canal Rd.

If you look close at the pictures you can see where they patched the hole up before they pounded those plates in.

I guess I was "Dam" lucky to have been there and see the leak, otherwise we all might believe Mr. Mangefrida who took a guess it appears. It's obvious to most that these animal burrow issues DO cause a breach if left unchecked. And with all the large trees & small bramble on the Erie Canal embankments that’s obviously not possible right now. Inspections in many places simply aren't possible anymore due to the thick overgrowth

People in Fairport are talking about seeing animal burrows marked and traps on Nextdoor Apps… please… do the math.

Having any animal burrows on unsafe embankment dams, that are impossible to inspect properly, is just a catastrophe waiting to happen…
Right now there are 62 MILLION gallons of water sitting overhead many neighborhoods in Fairport with Zones 57 & 58 near the Oxbow Lake area… and many extended neighborhoods are also sitting some 50’ below the canal waterline. One animal burrow there means 62 million gallons of water will drain out... as that fire hydrant gets wider and wider.

Time to decide… do you want to keep your unsafe dams covered with trees or not. If not then please tell the Stop the Canal Clearcut group to stop speaking for YOU!

And what does Mr. Mangefrida and the rest of those STCC folks have to say now? Still think these are cute fuzzy woodchucks who need a home?