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Doug K

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A Message for Lori Higgins Scholer about the STCC
« on: May 24, 2020, 09:32:30 am »
I'm surprised that Mike C didn't give a stern warning about Lori's main issue... She's Talking to the WRONG GROUP for help with a canal safety issue. Unfortunately the STCC group in is "safety denial". 

Lori,you wanted advice so here's the best we can offer from the ECNA:

1) Do NOT talk to a group about embankment leaks or other safety issues on the Erie Canal, that has been actively fighting AGAINST safety repairs since they formed.

These people do NOT believe you have a leak that matters, or that anything is wrong with the canal. They have fought against all of the recent embankment safety work, the canal owners have tried to perform, for the past 3 years. We actually have 4 leaks on our property, and you can get this repaired quite easily... just ask the New York Canal Corporation to close this leak with steel plates... read below.

You may want to check out our Forum for Canal Neighbors -

2) Do NOT believe anyone in a Leadership Role within the STCC group or if their name appears on the Comment Names List in your post.

These folks have all stated they do not believe the canal is unsafe at one time or another and several have been called out by rogue members of the STCC who are trying to steer the group towards the truth.  And this STCC member (Kevin) is most likely the worst, as he tends to oversimplify safety to one statement, "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

The STCC group often says it's "their canal" but they will do NOTHING to help maintain it, they do not help clean the canal trails as part of NY Parks & Trails, and they will tell you to call "someone else" to try and fix YOUR canal problem, because "they do NOT want to fix their own canal" in reality. They are content to watch it "decay into disaster".

And when that happens they will turn about face, and blame others for not keeping their canal in proper working order.

3) Be careful of criticizing the Stop the Canal Clear-cut Leader & Co-Founders Ms. E. Agte or Ms. G. Maier

These two have denied everything from unsafe earthen embankment dams to the worst safety issue on the Canal in Perinton...which is burrowing animals on a 100 year old earthen dam. They can't undersatnd that they are fighting to protect the biggest threat to you and every neighbor in Perinton & Fairport.

Just take a look at this posting about recent pink flags seen in Perinton.

Ms. Agte doesn't understand the issues that woodchuck burrows present to canal dams, she also doesn't understand what invasive plant species are doing to the embankments either. She has actively worked against PUBLIC SAFETY of Perinton & Fairport and to this day still refuses to believe there are unsafe dams or any safety issues along the canal system... despite proof otherwise. The group, and it's leaders seem to miss the point being made by NY canal ownership about the safety of the waterway & trails.

The best advice we have about Woodchucks & Muskrats on the canal is here:

We also have a post on our website about this topic:!-the-first-sign-of-common-sense-from-the-stcc-facebook-page/msg647/#msg647

But you were looking for someone to actually help YOU with your Canal Leak Issue, that's why you looked to the STCC.

The best advice is simple... that advice help won't come from the Stop the Canal Clear-cut group. They will simply deny the issue, because fixing it means clearing many trees away to get at the problem and resolve it.. which is dead tree roots causing a "piping" of water in your yard.

Here's what you have shown in your pictures, from what we know:

The box installed by the NYCC is called a Weir Gate and it has a sensor that allows the amount of water flow to be measured. That leak rate tells the Canal Corp when it's time to fix that leak... which is done by driving 40' tall metal plates between the water in the canal and your leak. If you are worried, call the NYS Canal Corporation and they will send the local Engineer out to take a look, and also plan for a repair if it's time. They will gladly relieve your worry and make the canal safer, that's their job.

Here's some phone numbers that will help


Administrative Headquarters -518-449-6000
Lyons Section - 315-871-4300
Buffalo Division Office - 716-686-4400
Maintenance & Operations - 518-449-6055

Good luck in your endeavor, contact us directly or maybe want to visit our main website for Erie Canal Neighbors ---
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