Author Topic: I had to chuckle! (Read 140 times)

Michael Caswell · « **on:** February 03, 2023, 07:31:49 pm »

Here's a photo from the Facebook page of the STCC group, posted by no other than her majesty Eerie Agte.

Notice the shipping hazard floating in the canal?

Do you see what it is?

A HUGE tree floating in the water. Just the thing that the NYPA are trying to prevent, by clearing embankments. AND Eerie Agte didn't notice it. She's just proven to everyone why the NYPA needs to clear old trees from the canal embankments.

Doug K · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2023, 09:21:06 pm »

Sadly Ms. Agte has been plagued by her single focus on trying to save "shade" for those who use the "walking trail" along side the Erie Canal.

That seems to have created a blindness to the truth.

Ms Agte must not use the canal waterway, so cares little about what plight boaters may have. She must see those trees littering the waterway as scenic beauty.

Ms Agte also must not live below any of the miles & miles of unsafe embankments that she claims do not need any routine maintenance. She doesn't have to wonder or worry about the safety of her property or family.

And obviously the ONLY section of the entire 700+ mile NYS Canal System that matters to Ms Agte, is the three miles of Empire Trail that passes through Fairport & Perinton, and within "walking distance" of her own front step.

And her continued blindness to anything that she can't understand... what's new there?

Great catch on the canal picture, Mike, but I heard that Ms Agte was abstaining from Facebook these days. Maybe fell off the wagon on New Years Resolution?

Are you sure it's really her?

Michael Caswell · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2023, 04:27:00 pm »

I think it is her. It has that 'Eerie ring' about it.

More importantly, there is dissent in the STCC camp, and someone with some logic.

Catherine has noticed The Tree blocking one third of the canal.

I expect she'll be banned for ever from this pitiful Facebook group!

Doug K · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2023, 08:18:07 am »

Nothing speaks louder than this picture, except the comments from others in this Facebook group who felt the need to speak out.

A pitiful THREE responses from a group boasting 1000s in membership, and again, the minority of people actually share the TRUTH, while most in the group simply act as enablers for Ms. Agte and Ms Borden-Maier

Doug K · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2023, 11:04:42 am »

This just popped up on the Stop the Canal Clear-cut Facebook page... from Ginny Maier

So in a group that has stated they care about "shade" for their Erie Trail excursions, way more than making the Erie Canal Embankments safer, why would one of their leaders ask a question about how boaters get along with reduced water levels?

If you noted the picture that Group Founder E. Agte posted a few days ago, the one with the tree halfway blocking the channel, they seem to care little about how boaters can navigate the waterway with down trees littered about. The group has never asked that question, to our knowledge.

And it's now obvious that few if any power boaters are part of this group. Afterall, boaters DO want the Canal Corporation to clean up the waterway... just ask them if TREES are an ISSUE and see what replies come in. There are at least a dozen reports of floating trees in the navigation channel each season.

The STCC group has NEVER mentioned anything about boaters or all those waterway users in the past, except to say the Colonial Belle needs a longer canal season.

So why the sudden interest, anyone care to venture a guess?

It seems to the ECNA that Ms. Maier might be thinking that keeping the Erie Canal at LOWER levels just might be a way she can argue that trees do NOT have to be cut down at all, "just keep the water level lower and it's all good"... right?

She can start another letter writing campaign to tell the governor that there is NO issue with a canal that is only partially filled... it means trees can live.

She can pester the folks at NYS Canals and NYPA, stating that there are "other solutions" than removing trees...once again.

Well those trees can probably live until the next time they have to lower water...

Because more leaks are being made everyday... by minks, muskrats, and other wildlife that burrow their dens near water, and at water level. You would think that a Biology teacher at St. John Fisher College would know that bit of fact. Or maybe Ms. Maier choses to ignore that truth, the same way she has ignored the truth about overgrown canal embankments being a public safety hazard.

Of course that idea won't work EITHER, because the NYS Canal Corporation is REQUIRED by NYS Canal Law, to keep the Erie Canal System in safe, working order.

Reduced water levels are NOT going to remove the inherent problems with trees on embankment dams. And it is NOT keeping the Canal System in "good working order"... by keeping it partially empty due to safety concerns.

Applying this type of "shallow logic" it would only be a matter of a few years and the Erie Canal would become nothing more than a wading pool, left so empty even the fish would avoid it.

But none of that matters to a group that is intent on NOT listening to reason, facts or truth.

Thankfully someone in Ms. Maier's own group has stated PLAINLY that reduced water levels HURT his experience trying to kayak last season.

Mr. Martin Heit wrote this to reply: No trouble navigating, but I did have trouble getting in and out of my kayak, since my dock was built in 2001 for a higher water level. This had a significant impact on my enjoyment of the canal.

And since a large effort is currently underway to Reimagine the Canals with a heavy reliance on human-powered watercraft, like canoe & kayaks, I am not sure that Ms. Maier will convince NYPA that lower water levels "don't affect boaters at all"... which we at the ECNA predict will be the next "big lie" told by the Leadership of this fractured group

https://www.ny.gov/reimagine-canals-initiative/reimagine-canal-task-force

So will Ms. Maier listen to those in her OWN group?

Time will tell....

Doug K · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2023, 07:33:56 am »

And right on cue, Ms Maier comes through with confirmation of our "hunch"... the group's leaders are way too predictable

This reply was posted to the single reply that Ginny Maier received, not at all what she was fishing for...

Virginia Borden Maier (Author): Thanks, Martin. Do you think it would be possible to modify your dock to work? I'm not suggesting you should do/have done this, but, could it be done? I'm asking to try to determine if a lower water level in the Canal could be acceptable.

Martin Heit: I added a lower level to the dock a couple of years ago, but now that's also too high. Ideally I'd have a floating dock, but I wasn't going to spend the money if the situation is temporary.

So lets understand this...Ginny Maier asks a group of 1000 members about their experiences using the waterway with reduced water levels. She gets one SINGLE answer to her absurd question and now wants to change NYS Canal policy to keep the waterway "permanently lower", based on that input.

Ginny Maier somehow believes that this lower water level should be a permanent change, based on the experience of ONE KAYAKER, from her social media group, named Martin. No power boater input, no thought about what the millions of other NYS Canal System users might have to say?

Does that about sum it up?

What else can be added here... the woman is delusional.

And she has an entire group on Facebook that refuses to address this type of bad leadership in their "social cause"... that's just wrong.

What's next? Will Ms Maier suggest that NY State installs floating docks for everyone living along the Erie Canal, and keep Erie Canalway water levels lower, all in an effort to "save face" and not admit to her Facebook group that shes been wrong all along, and misled her group down that same path?

New York can only hope that someone in this Facebook group comes to their senses and "fires management".

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