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Is the leader of this Facebook group trying to say that South Carolina has it right when it comes to TREES and New York State does not?

I'm not clear what point Ms. Agte is trying to make here... this famous Angel Oak tree, in South Carolina, is NOT located on an unsafe, earthen, canal embankment...is it?


Elizabeth R. Agte - March 15, 2022 (12 hrs)
 
It’s a law in South Carolina that you cannot randomly cut down a live oak. There is a reverence here for trees, I feel is often missing at home. And that was so abundantly apparent at Angel Oak outside of Charleston.

This 400 year old tree is totally inconvenient to get to. I almost bought the postcard at the Charleston visitor center and moved on. But once we arrived, I was awestruck by her majesty, and the multitudes that had come to see her, I actually thought we would be alone. I was so wrong. 

At first I was sad that I wouldn’t have an opportunity for a pristine picture. But then, I realized the value… of all these people who had come out of their way…. To John’s Island, to pay homage TO A TREE. I haven’t been able to stop thinking about so many things… newspaper articles about how we need to have a sense of wonder in our lives, why, when I touched her I cried, about the women from the Adirondack’s I talked to, who couldn’t imagine why NYPA thought cutting down trees on the canal was a good idea...

Old trees give us a sense of permanence. They anchor us to our place on earth. They feel sturdy and sheltering. They feel entirely different than the trees planted on artificial mounds at the front of mall parking lots. What NYPA wants to give us is a tree/nature adjacent experience…like a theme park. “Here’s a real tree on our left, we’re walking, we’re walking….”



And note the words Ms. Agte uses: "randomly cut down a live OAK".

Because there are MANY reasons why the State of South Carolina WOULD cut down a live Oak Tree. One of those is if that tree was growing on an earthen embankment dam, very much the same as in our own State of NY. That is because the State of South Carolina has Rules & Regulations that align EXACTLY with the Association of State Dam Safety Officials, also known as the ASDSO.

If you didn't know it... a South Carolina FLOOD, almost 50 years ago, was actually the catalyst for the creation of the ASDSO group.

While the State of SC may have a "reverence" for old trees, they also have the INTELLIGENCE to recognize the need for Dam Safety in their state. And the state has adopted the EXACT SAME RULES as New York, when it comes to the simple idea of "no trees on earthen dams".


This is from the South Carolina Dam Safety Website




https://scdhec.gov/BOW/dams-reservoirs-safety-program-overview

https://scdhec.gov/BOW/dams-reservoirs-safety-program-overview/dam-owner-resources


And here are the Guidelines in South Carolina for what constitutes the proper vegetation for embankment dams, including the roles of trees, grass, and weeds.




https://damsafety.org/dam-owners/trees-and-brush


If the Erie Canal had been built in South Carolina, way back when, the picture shown above is what it would look like today... because that's South Carolina Law.

And that picture is exactly the same as what the New York Power Authority & State Canal Corporation have been saying all along about Erie Canal Integrity:

Erie Canal Embankments must be cleared, grass-covered, and maintained as earthen dams.


So, once again, Ms. AGTE seems to still be pushing her social media campaign of disinformation and distraction..."Look at my visit to an Oak Tree in South Carolina, NY should learn something from this"

Maybe something we can ALL learn here...

How desperate some people might become, just trying to convince a social media group that is following them, that they know what they are talking about, when it comes to "trees" along the Erie Canal.


« Last Edit: March 16, 2022, 11:52:23 am by Doug K »