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Michael Caswell

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Pittsford Mayor & Supervisor still don't get it.
« on: February 13, 2020, 05:32:47 am »
Here's the latest from the STCC web page.

It seems Maier and Agte are still battling along with the mayor and town supervisor.

Elizabeth R. Agte
posted 12 feb

Virginia Borden Maier and I had a very informative meeting with Pittsford Town Supervisor Bill Smith and Pittsford Village Mayor Robert Corby. We all agree that NYPA has no business being in charge of the Canal Corporation, and that the Reimagine the Canal projects are smoke and mirrors. We keep circling back to why the governor is willing to spend $300 million on projects no one wants, and donít honor the historic value of the canal. Why would the state build new infrastructure when itís done a bad job of maintaining what we have? As we have said so many times in the past, and as the mayor said today, we have a 524 mile park that needs to be nurtured, not torn apart, or segmented and drained.
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What amazes me is that they think no one wants this project to succeed, but they are SO wrong. The more people I talk to, the more I realize the message is getting out. Folks are liking the Re-imagine project and do understand why the canal corp is clearing these dangerous embankments.

What is it that these two men don't understand? Is it that they can't read the documents put out by FEMA, ASDSO and USACE?

I can understand a group of environmental "wannabees", with no technical expertise on this crusade, but these two community leaders joining in, that baffles me.

Are they not concerned about how these unsafe Canal Embankments may affect the people they are supposed to serve in their community?

Are they not concerned that the Towns People they represent may be required to get Flood Insurance if they live near or below these dams?

Are they not worried that "denying safety" doesn't resolve the FACT that Canal Embankments in their community are classified as Hazardous?

Ah well!
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I've included the post from Facebook, just so folks will not think the ECNA is "reading" more into this post than what's there.

Not sure where to start but to say that once again the minority speaks and believes THEY have the answer... when they don't even understand the issues.

Complex issues, like NYS Canal System Safety, are solved by asking many questions and also understanding what's NOT being stated, and for what reasons. This group, it's leaders, and all who subscribe to this rhetoric of safety denial, simply don't care about their communities, for what reason, we don't know.

Once again what you hear is simple in their post... The STCC doesn't like the message, or the messenger, and it seems they have Pittsford Leaders agreeing

This fact has become rather obvious as times goes on...

Case in Point... Unsafe Earthen Embankment Dams.

Having unsafe earthen embankments in our communities is NOT a good thing, and it's not something people can simply "ignore" because they don't want to talk about them or because they don't like the answer on what makes them safe again. That is what this Facebook group and it's Leaders have done, and now they want to convince town & village leaders in Pittsford to do the same.

This group must not think that the safety of residents in these towns matters much, most likely because they live above the flood zones.

They also must not believe that homeowners, who's properties border the canal, have a right to peace of mind knowing their "neighbor's property" next door, won't flood them.

They must not care that people living below unsafe embankments, and in the Flood Hazard Zones those dams create, may be burdened with Flood Insurance premiums to insure they are compensated in the event of a canal breach.

In fact this group still doesn't want to discuss public safety at all, mainly because it puts the existence of their entire group & cause in jeopardy.

So they pedal their message to any and all who are like them, resistant to change and ignorant of the facts & truth regarding Earthen Dam Safety. And they don't go to their own neighborhoods to do this, they choose instead to go to communities they don't live in but have convinced those Town's Leaders to follow their message "because is best for everyone". It's certainly not better for homeowners who have to disclose an "unsafe canal dam" next to their property if they want to sell it someday.

This "environmental" group is pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, and don't care a bit about any facts but the ones they make up.

The tactics of the Stop the Canal Clear-cut group didn't work in Brockport, or Medina, and it didn't work in Albion either. Those communities each had visits by the STCC group, or it's members, and "opted out" of their message. These west-side communities chose the path of public safety for their canal neighborhoods, over a message to ignore the words "unsafe dams" that the Facebook group has been spreading since it started.


Has anyone else wondered why these Stop the Canal Change (STCC) Leaders are going two towns over from their own canal community to talk about the canal, when their own town has 11 miles of it passing through?

Has anyone asked why they are coming from Fairport to the Pittsford area to spread their message?

Why aren't they trying to convince their own community leaders about all this "terrible work" from the Canal Corporation? Why are they not talking to their own Mayor & Supervisor about fighting the Reimagine Canals Program or resist getting unsafe canal embankments repaired?

Well that's simple...   Fairport & Perinton have learned that improving PUBLIC SAFETY isn't something you try to argue against. The Fairport Office of Community & Economic Development has already come out in FAVOR of the efforts to Reimagine the Canals as a safer, more profitable business model for NY State. The Village Officials in Fairport understand that unsafe embankments can't be allowed to remain in our communities, those unsafe earthen dams are keeping Erie Canal Neighbors in Perinton & Fairport under the threat of flooding, holding their quaint canal town hostage until the safety issues get repaired.

Go look for yourself, here's Fairport's answer.. Support the Reimagine the Canals work... for the best interest of Fairport.

Pittsford's residents, both Town & Village, should be VERY alarmed when people come from neighboring towns & villages trying to convince Pittford's Town & Village leaders that the canal is "safe" and that any efforts to improve it are a "bad thing" to do. These residents should be asking the same questions the ECNA has been for almost two years of this group...

What is the Stop the Canal Clearcut's answer to fixing UNSAFE NYS CANAL EMBANKMENTS that are threatening the safety of all Erie Canal Neighbors?

Folks, don't hold your breath waiting for that answer, all you will get is a denial of the truth about NYS Canal Safety, by a group & its leaders that don't want to face facts. If that happened then they would also have to explain to their followers how "blind" they have been to that truth about safety.

The Leaders of the STCC boost about a group 600+ strong.. that's quite a bit of disappointment if the leaders have not been forthright about the most important topic of all when it comes to the Canal... that the waterway & all it's structures are safe for the surrounding public to use.

The Canal Corporation HAS already given us ALL a message, Constructive Notice... The NYS Canal Embankments are UNSAFE, anyone living near it should take heed of the warning.

NY State has seen a constant churn of change along the Erie Canal National Heritage Corridor for over 200 years. It started in 1818 when the idea of a canal crossing the state first became a reality. That churn continued through 3 expansions of the waterway, with the last one taking place about 100 years ago when the NY Barge Canal was made. Now our generation, in 2020,  is faced with new simple truths about this 200 year old canal system... It's unsafe, falling apart, and losing money... and something needs to change.

We can either change those new truths and fix the canal, or think it's all a farce and listen to a group advocating for NO CHANGES.

Embankments will still be unsafe until the RIGHT choice is made...

Pittsford Residents... this is what change means to your community... this is what the Reimagine the Canals programs wants to bring to your town & village. This is also the same for Fairport... this is what the new owners of the NYS Canal System have in mind to resurrect the canal

But this lovely Canal Winterscape might NOT become a reality for Pittsford, if this Facebook Group has anything to say about it. And they are working very hard to convince your Mayor & Supervisor to follow them down this rabbit hole into still more STCC Rhetoric

It's up to you Pittsford... Brighton...

Time to act for the best interests of your communities before the decision is given to others NOT from Pittsford

Go take a look at the Reimagine the Canals effort on our website
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