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Michael Caswell

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She went to the meeting and got snubbed!
« on: July 08, 2021, 08:10:12 pm »
STCC Leader (Well that's a joke calling her that)  writes on their Facebook page --

Elizabeth Agte --
I just returned from the Perinton Workshop meeting. As I understand it, the point of a workshop meeting is to gather information. For the board to ask questions of the member who is presenting the report. It is not a venue for the public to speak and voice their concerns or perspectives.

It was incredibly difficult to sit there and not speak, as the "report" of the Earthen Embankment Integrity Program, the scoping document and the DGEIS guidebook were more or less explained by the town supervisor. Though he acknowledged that I was there...as I was only one of three guests in the room, it was hard to ignore that I was there...when he was unable to answer questions from the other board members, he did not use the resource that was in the room. I could feel my blood pressure rising. Don't ask me for my personal opinion, I get that, but for Pete's Sake ask me if I know the factual answer to the question! As he was getting ready to close the topic, I did insist on at least clarifying the upcoming deadlines, especially for anyone who was watching the meeting virtually. Because anyone signing into the virtual Canal Corporation meetings next Wednesday thinking they can speak will be disappointed if they did not reserve a place on the 13th. And the written public comment period is end of business on August 6th. (canals.ny.gov is where you can find the documents under the Earthen Embankment Integrity Program)

Soon after Ciaran Hanna came into office, we extended a courtesy invitation to join us in a meeting with the Canal Corporation at the library, which in fact he attended.

Shortly after he was in office the Canal Clear Cutting link on the town webpage disappeared.

I found out about this workshop meeting from our stealth member Karen Anvelt, not because I received a courtesy call from the supervisor. If I had stuck to my no screen time before bed last night, I would have entirely missed the post.
And I am forever ingratiated to our intrepid town board member Meredith Stockman-Broadbent who actually answered my text way too late on a week night, because she is so passionate about her job, and town board transparency.

It takes more than a village to save our natural resources. And to answer the newest town board member Alex Winner, who had lots of questions...no the west side is NOT happy with the outcome of the clear cutting. And no Canal Corporation is not masterminding this embankment project, it is NYPA all the way
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She says  " for Pete's Sake ask me if I know the factual answer to the question! ".   

FACTUAL ANSWER? NEVER HAS AGTE, OR HER GROUP, COME UP WITH ANYTHING FACTUAL! NEVER!

She wrote "Shortly after he (Ciaran Hanna) was in office the Canal Clear Cutting link on the town webpage disappeared."

Yes, we (ECNA) contacted Mr Hanna on numerous occasions, telling him about the lies and deceit coming from Agte, and how she and her group were jeopardizing the lives of many residents in Perinton.

We also notified him about 'CONSTRUCTIVE NOTICE" and how the NYPA had notified everyone about the dangers, making the towns liable for any problems, like a breech of the dams.  The town of Perinton obviously took notice and became detached from these radical people. Unfortunately Pittsford and Brighton Towns didn't see the light.

But, Robert Corby has been voted out Mike Barker disappeared mysteriously, and the STCC is falling apart.  They only got 3 people to attend the NYPA meeting, it seems.

And who is Meredith Broadbent?  She was a volunteer at the Oxbow cleanup, but mysteriously didn't attend the last few events. Then I received an email from her thanking me for keeping me 'in the loop'.  I thought that was odd until I found she was in cahoots with Agte.

It looks like a couple of others are trying to get into government positions, or positions of influence  - like Kristen Edmund on Nextdoor, Jamie Meuwissen in Fairport, and Broadbent in Perinton.

Local Government leaders should beware of the message the STCC is trying to spread.

All this is very sad.

What used to be a very friendly place to live, has been turned into a hateful town and village, thanks entirely to Elizabeth Agte and her mistaken view of 'environmentalism', and her continued refusal to accept the truth about unsafe canal embankments.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2021, 06:39:41 am by Doug K »

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Re: She went to the meeting and got snubbed!
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2021, 07:15:29 am »
Poor Elizabeth, almost brings a tear to your eye... NOT!

Mike has hit the nail on the head with this remark about Ms Agte offering "facts"... FACTUAL ANSWER? NEVER HAS AGTE, OR HER GROUP, COME UP WITH ANYTHING FACTUAL! NEVER!

But even more telling about this supposed leader of this Facebook group... these few statements by Elizabeth herself:

"It was incredibly difficult to sit there and not speak..."
"I could feel my blood pressure rising."
"I found out about this workshop meeting from our stealth member Karen Anvelt, not because I received a courtesy call from the supervisor."


Yes, most people have learned already that Ms Agte loves to hear her own voice "rise above the masses", and sadly she also believes that "her valued opinion"  has somehow turned into "her own personal truth". It appears that the Town Leaders have listened to the ECNA and our emails and perhaps that is why the STCC was NOT asked for "factual information".

Like Mr. Caswell has stated so eloquently, and I will paraphrase here; the truth about canal embankments has somehow ALWAYS escaped the STCC Leadership. And now she has reached the point where if she is "not included" it "makes her blood pressure rise". Maybe the best solution is for her to simply "walk away for health reasons".

And now this person somehow believe she should be getting "courtesy calls" from local government officials so she can help their "solve the problems"?

It's almost INCREDIBLE that this person can't realize her group, their cause, and their campaign are NOT CREDIBLE. It seems that 99% of this Facebook groups members must sense it, there are only about 6 or 7 members who post, out of a claimed 600+.

Like Ms. Agte's other claims that are not entirely accurate:


"...no the west side is NOT happy with the outcome of the clear cutting"
"...no Canal Corporation is not masterminding this embankment project, it is NYPA all the way."



As a matter of FACT... real facts, not just the opinions of the STCC leader:

1) Many Erie Canal Neighbors actually prefer the recently renovated earthen embankments between Brockport & Lockport. Some have even asked that ONLY GRASS is planted, they do not want any barrier, and are happy with the new views of both the canal and the sunsets over it.

2) NYPA only runs the NYS Canal Corporation, they are not actively setting the parameters to clear embankments, they have not been involved with the creation of the Embankment Integrity Guidebook or other documents. Most if not all of that work was done by Bergmann, who is more than capable to handle a Program or Project of this magnitude... 100% professional.


And of course there is the continued issue in the STCC Group with those who want to "whisper" in a Public Group on Facebook. Ms. Agte herself is the biggest offender, posting "private" messages like this for a very small audience... the regular rank & file members are "excluded" from the conversation, by the person they trust the most.

One day those group members will all see their trust was misplaced




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