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Re: The rantings of a crazy woman!
« on: November 21, 2021, 10:22:19 am »
Funny you should mention another "crazy" member of this STCC Facebook group, because here are a very few members in that group that do appear to have some "common sense" when it comes to work along the Erie Canal.  Note the words "very few", because they are all kept silent (for the most part) under threat of "retribution & expulsion" by the group's founder.

Here's another "discussion" between Ms. Pavia and one of those "smarter" members in the STCC rank & file... Mr. Robert Langdon.

We have written about Mr. Langdon and other outspoken STCC members before:


https://ecna.createaforum.com/the-stop-the-clearcut-argument/dissent-amongst-the-ranks-of-the-stcc/msg639/#msg639



Here's the STCC Post:





And the issuant conversation from the red arrow:

Robert G. Langdon:
Good lord people! So there is not much work surveyors do from boats …. Just a FYI.

One of the only things they do is sonar scans which a quick check of Prudent's site is something they specialize in. Being a surveyor who works for an engineering firm this is also a very specialized thing that not many firms get into. This could be done for a multitude of reasons including but not limited to making sure nothing new had wound up on the bottom of the canal that could be a hazard for other boats on the canal.

When I worked at another firm we actually did a sonar scan of the bottom of the canal for a 3rd party firm was was trying to put in a boat launch and wanted to prepare plans for the canal Corp at the time to show the scope of work they were planning on doing.

Honestly most of us Surveyors are pretty chill down to earth guys so if you really wanted to know maybe just go out side and say “hey you guys need a beer? Whatcha doing anyways?”



Eileen Pavia:
Robert G. Langdon can’t be too hard on people being suspicious, with what’s been happening. I was figuring this was some pre canal closure business. You might be right about a boat launch. They’ve been talking about adding more. Don’t know where though.



Robert G. Langdon:
Eileen Pavia that’s part of the point though on this group, lately it’s just non stop aggression and suspicion.

Instead of just asking we post on here and spread rumors.

I was all but attacked by a member on this site earlier this year while out working because I was surveying close to the canal and they thought I was surveying for the canal. The individual I see posting on here all the time came up taking my picture and harassing me for doing private work for a business that happens to boarder the canal. Even after I told them that I was working for the business and not doing canal work they continued to belittle me and attack me.

They finally went away and about 30 min later I saw them walk into the business I was working for.

After finding out I was working for the business they walked by me and instead of apologizing for attacking me they made an excuse for their behavior “well I guess you are working for them but you don’t understand what we have been dealing with.” And walked away no apology.


Eileen Pavia
Robert G. Langdon point well taken. Unfortunately people can let emotions overtake them at times. I have to admit even I look at things happening along the canal with a suspicious eye these days. It just comes from how arrogant the Canal Corporation has been and were at the meetings. The feeling I got was just, "Yeah, right, whatever, we're doing whatever we want, when we want". I wouldn't take it out on a worker though. But I actually would be the first to ask them what they were doing.

That's just me being nosy and round about sneaky. 😅

I actually think your background can come in handy to help inform people here just as you did when you posted this. Maybe doing a separate post, giving people an idea of what might be expected from surveyors, (like this post), would help.



There you have it, nosy, sneaky, rumor spreading, attacking, suspicious, emotional, belittling... and perhaps a little "touched".

I can't think of anyone that spells out the qualities this Facebook group stands for most, than Ms. Pavia and Mr. Langdon