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Michael Caswell

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They squirm and wriggle, but the blame is on them.
« on: June 16, 2022, 12:29:12 pm »


Sudden Concern?

For over four years the Canal Corporation was unable to carry out the recommendation of the inspection report from Rizzo Engineering, which stated the embankments  were in a deplorable condition, and they were unable to inspect fully, due to dense undergrowth and large trees. There is no one else to blame other than Agte and her gang of crazies! The concern of the Canal Corporation and NYPA about public safety has never wavered, but now Elizabeth can't pretend it's not there.

In that time, there have been numerous tree blow downs and further deterioration. By lowering the water level, these DANGEROUS embankments have had the hydrostatic pressure relieved, so there is much less of a chance of a breach!  And all these seeps sit entirely on the shoulders of Elizabeth Agte and her followers.

Of course she's skeptical, it's just one more way of spinning her warped mission ideas. Anything to attempt to make the Canal Corporation look bad eh?

Sorry!  Won't work any more.

The trees have to go. All the real experts say so.

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It is getting increasingly harder for this Facebook group to pedal their "fake embankment facts", especially when the Canal Corporation has been "ultra-transparent" about all the public safety issues with trees along the Trail falling down, or into the water channel.

This group led by Agte continues to wear blinders to any idea that they may be wrong on "the safety issue". They continue their chant that "nothing is wrong". But the data and facts are piling up against them almost daily.

And there have been many failures of canal embankments since this Facebook group started there campaign, many that had to be repaired were for sinkholes, major seeping, and an aquaduct leak that washed away an earthen dam. There have also been quite a few emergency repairs in Fairport, Brockport, Macedon, and Holley where metal sheet plating was used to try and reinforce the water impounding structure.

Read all about whats happened just in the past three years on the Rochester Beacon, story linked below.


https://rochesterbeacon.com/2019/07/02/trees-on-dams-are-a-high-risk-danger/#comment-64553
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The best part of this post, and one point easily missed...

Ms. Agte admitted there was a BREACH on the Canal, along an embankment supporting an aqueduct in Palmyra/Macedon area.

Even with her members spelling "breach" correctly, Ms. Agte is still dead set on using the wrong form of the word "breech" to describe what took place. So it's hard to understand if's she's talking about a particular part of a cannon, someone's buttocks or a young lad's pants.

Hopefully someone in this group will suggest it's time for "new leadership" soon. And they select someone who can learn from others, instead of thinking "they know all the answers" themselves. Ms. Agte can't seem to figure out how to spell breach, let alone understand why her group is making it a real possibility along these aging canal embankments.


Brings a whole new meaning to the well-known phrase.. "A mind is a terrible thing to waste" (Arthur Fletcher, 1972)


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And it still seems that Ms Agte wants her Facebook group, and the general public, to ignore all of the history of Erie Canal Embankment failures that have resulted in past Erie Canal corridor floods or "near-miss" events that could have caused significant flood damage.

Her Google webpage still insists that the "only time" the Erie Canal has broken is when a culvert in Pittsford broke in 1974, while "human activity" was occurring nearby. Here's her statements from the group's Google Website.




Once again, it's just more of Ms. Agte's OVERSIMPLIFICATION of the public danger that unmaintained, high-hazard earthen canal embankments may have on our communities, and this is based on her opinions, and a CONTINUED refusal to accept the HISTORY of past Erie Canal breaches and floods.


Past Erie Canal Floods, Past Erie Canal Embankment Breaches... surely that has never happened???

Yes, past embankment breaches and floods, both in the distant past and more recently as well, have kept the Canal Corporation quite busy, trying to keep 100 miles of 100 year old earthen dams from failing and flooding NY State Canal Communities.

You can't ignore the past, and it's best to try and learn from history instead of repeating it.


ORLEANS COUNTY CIRCA 1927


https://orleanshub.com/historic-childs-the-erie-canal-in-the-town-of-gaines-part-2/


ORLEANS COUNTY CIRCA 2012


https://www.oneidadispatch.com/2012/08/01/stretch-of-erie-canal-shut-down-after-partial-embankment-collapse/



https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Damage-closes-section-of-canal-3755660.php


MACEDON/PALMYRA CIRCA 2021


https://www.fltimes.com/news/erie-canal-levels-lowered-in-macedon-after-creek-bank-collapse/article_143fef48-7eec-5523-affe-56f2c145c890.html

https://www.fltimes.com/news/erie-canal-fully-reopens-today/article_eb9f2b49-6b6f-5c75-9370-50101796cc7f.html

And now Ms Agte wants everyone to ignore that the Macedon Breach was actually on an earthen dam, she's claiming the aqueduct washed away, when in fact it was an earthen berm on either end supporting that aqueduct.

There are plenty of images that confirm this FACT.


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