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Michael Caswell

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Three Bored Housewives?
« on: December 21, 2018, 07:26:15 am »
Posted by Elizabeth Agte yesterday.

To all you warriors who have been keeping us posted and taking pictures, thank you! The magnitude of the work happening behind your homes is frankly, staggering. We have been promised the Environmental Assessment Form that CC had to fill out to do this work, and we have no patience with the waiting. As all of you can see with your own eyes the impact on the embankment and environment are yet to be told, especially as the rains start tonight. We want to know about flooded yards and basements.
I don't want to alarm anyone, but when my husband called to talk to Monroe County Emergency Protection about any emergency plans in place while this work is being done, they said that yeah, they knew about the project, because they had read it in the paper. !!!!! And they weren't at all concerned or alarmed because the CC knew what they were doing. !!!! So the CC did NOT reach out to Monroe County, and I am assuming didn't reach out to Orleans either, and they found out the same way at the same time everyone else did, barely a working week before the equipment arrived. CC does NOT have an emergency plan in place, (we asked at the meeting) they are relying on the counties to take care of it, and the counties are expecting that the CC is doing work as normal, and so they aren't even asking or looking... Except we all know by now the CC is doing work that has never been done before. When my husband talked to the County guy, he was very tight lipped, basically yes or no answers. And of course we have the county /state hierarchy to contend with, which is why accidents happen to begin with, no one wants to get slapped on the wrist or worse for noticing something someone else is doing wrong.
I've been getting word that the Tioga Crew is getting testy about being watched and photographed and have dash cams in place. When I heard they were photographing everyone, I asked... what do they thing we are going to do? TIE OURSELVES TO TREES? So folks, it's time for Groucho masks... HA!
TODAY after waiting two weeks, the CC finally posted trail closures on their website.
Keep the pressure on. I think we may be the only emergency protect plan out there


So, it seems that everyone except the STCC has faith that the Canal Corp knows what they are doing.  What troubles me is that this group, managed by three bored housewives, thinks that they are experts in all things concerning canal maintenance. They have proven that they aren't in so many ways before, so what's changed today? Yes, these crews are getting testy, because these paparazzi's hiding behind trees are a damned nuisance, accidents waiting to happen. Only a couple of days ago one idiot was jogging right through the construction zone and ran behind an excavator just as it was swinging round. He nearly got killed. That is why the CC has closed the trails now. These crews are doing a dangerous job. The message is clear KEEP OUT - STAY AWAY!

From this post, it is quite clear that The Authorities have confidence in the NYPA/CC and realise that being tight lipped where the STCC is concerned is the best policy. As for the canal flooding yards etc. It's empty right now folks!   Didn't the STCC notice?

Hopefully, we won't see Ms Agte marching through these construction zones like she's done in the past. There's simply no need for people with no engineering or heavy equipment experience to think they have the skills to monitor this work. If they are concerned with safety, my recommendation is - STAY AWAY!

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Re: Three Bored Housewives?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2018, 08:41:30 am »
Once again it's Deceit, Deception & LOTS of DISINFORMATION from the STCC Leadership in an endless pursuit to try and justify their own existence. But you came to the RIGHT spot for the truth, folks, the Erie Canal Neighbors Association Forum where we continue to act as "Mythbusters"

Let's take claim #1 - No Emergency Plan while the Earthen Embankment Remediation Project (EERP) is ongoing

This is directly from the Canal Corp Website, who has ALWAYS had an Emergency Plan and provided Emergency Contact Information


Not to mention that the NY Canal Corporation has shared their Operations Emergency Number with the ECNA and has been posted here throughout the EERP Project. It really isn't that hard to see the issue here.. a group dedicated to perpetuating their own lies & myths.

1-866-691-8282 Erie Canal Emergency Reporting

Claim #2 - The NY Canal Corporation hasn't "done this before" and is somewhat "inept" at fixing Embankment Dams.

Well we all know these Embankment Dams have gone along with little to no maintenance for many years, that is why the EERP project was created. In their foresight the NY Canal Corp also selected a few Engineering Firms like Rizzo Engineeering and Ravi Consultants to act as their eyes & ears on the Project. The NY Canal Corp and NYPA are taking direction from a group of Engineers who have done this before.. and it shows in how smoothly the EERP Phase 2 work is progreessing on the Westside. To think the Embankment Remediation work is being done by "novices" is simply a LIE that the Stop The Clear Cut Group is trying to perpetuate.

Couple that with the fact that the NYCC, under direction of their Professional Engineering crew, hired TWO independent Construction Companies to do the actual Embankment Remediation work. They have also done this type of work before, and it shows in their "final product" that is fully documented on this ECNA website.

Take a look at the before and after of this section... looks pretty DAM professional to the ECNA and all who see it. Keep in mind the area shown is not complete, it will get another 18" of Earthen Layers and then the final approved covering.. Grass.


The Canal Corporation has, and always will have, the SAFETY of the Public at the forefront of all their operations & maintenance... period

The Stop the Clear Cut will always have their own selfish rhetoric at the forefront of their activity, choosing to look the other way on Safety

Sadly, never the two shall meet.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 10:14:54 am by Michael Caswell »

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Re: Three Bored Housewives?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2018, 10:15:40 am »
Those before and after photos say it all! A very professional job!



Imagine this on the Eastern section. It's coming soon!

Folks with this work done in their back yards can sleep easy - THIS is what SAFETY is all about. Just imagine how easy it would be to spot any potential problems now.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 10:20:17 am by Michael Caswell »

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Re: Three Bored Housewives?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2018, 09:02:36 am »
Just a final word on WHY all this work is being done along the Erie Canal, for those having trouble grasping the concept;

It's not a natural streambank, it's not the bank of a river, it's not even a levee or hillside slope. It is as Earthen Embankment Dam. Just ask any expert who has taken a look at this, even an expert sought out by those trying to STOP this project has agreed about that "simple" truth folks. Seems the truth still stands, even when so many chose to lie or ignore it.

https://ecna.createaforum.com/notices-from-the-canal-authority/check-the-ecna-forum-for-important-information-on-december-8-134/

Earthen Embankment Remediation Project is the BEST name that the NY Canal Corporation & NY Power Authority could have chosen for this work, EERP is exactly what is being done to SAVE the Erie Canal from it's slow, self destruction.